Reacties op: Jboss AS 5 GA release date

Door: m.j.milicevic

m.j.milicevic — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:50:17 +0000

Our choice was also based on Glassfish (v2) being certified (open source) container. I have to say, that after astroturfing incident (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/18/2043206&tid=108) I am still bit cautious about jboss products, and if there is an alternative, I am choosing alternative, hipocryte I know, but, yeah, you can hardly get around Hibernate these days, and Seam is also nice..

Door: arjan

arjan — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:02:00 +0000

@Ophir, indeed and there’s also JOnAS (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JOnAS), but last time I checked these are both J2EE 1.4, although with added Java EE 5 component (just like Jboss 4.2.x).

Door: Ophir Radnitz

Ophir Radnitz — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:55:22 +0000

There’s also Caucho Resin.
http://caucho.com/products/resin.xtp

Door: java monkey

java monkey — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:48:25 +0000

I think you are fluffing, the JBoss5 is actually try to catch up GFv2, and GFv3 prelude is the final release (not beta), GFv3 prelude support some JEE6 specs. Anyway, there are something in JBoss5 still not change:
1, Use different ports for different protocols, you should know what i mean if you are real JBoss “guru”.

2, The configure xmls is still hell, did you ever configure multiple clustered servers on the same machine?

3, The multiple class loader is still same.

4, The admin console is still looks hell!

5, The OSGi is fake.

6, it should came out before 2006′s xmas.

I think the PM did a lozzy job.

Door: Alexis MP

Alexis MP — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:46:51 +0000

GlassFish v3 Prelude is actually fully supported. It’s called “prelude” because it anticipates the full Java 6 release next year (mid-2009) and does not provide all Java EE features (no EJB container, no JMS, no clustering besides mod_jk, …). Give it a try if these are restrictions you don’t mind.

GlassFish v2 doesn’t have the modularity v3 enjoys but it does load services on demand. As for configuration, I’m pretty sure we can find alternatives.

-Alexis (GlassFish Team)

Door: arjan

arjan — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:26:15 +0000

@java monkey

I haven’t tried GFv3, but then again, it’s not officially released right? Take a look at https://glassfish.dev.java.net/public/downloadsindex.html , it’s still beta (or prelude as they call it).

Our system administrator rejected GF (V2), exactly because of those two points. GF v2 supposedly doesn’t have any configuration file (like context.xml, or -ds.xml) and also doesn’t offer any services. Our system administrator doesn’t care about any new Java APIs (which GF adopts faster than JBoss of course), but only cares about ‘services’. I’m not 100% sure what those services are he’s so interested in. I assume it are clustering and deployment services.

Again, Gf V2 (supposedly) doesn’t offer any of these services, while Jboss AS does. Gf V3 might be different though, but currently it’s still an early release. Hope to do a blog posting about the final release date of Gf v3 soon though

Door: java monkey

java monkey — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:01:09 +0000

About the GF, I think you are wrong, or you do AD. for JBoss?
have you try GFv3? it highly configurable, and it’s actually runs on OSGi. I don’t know where you got that ”
It canâ€™t be configured.
It doesnâ€™t offer any services”

Door: Oleg

Oleg — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:36:53 +0000

Well, it took Axel Rose 13 years to release Chinese Democracy, although there were rumors almost every year that it is about to come out.
Best of luck to JBoss, but it’s getting funny. I still have a slide deck from JBoss training that shows JBoss 5 release date Q2 of 2005.

Door: Radim Marek

Radim Marek — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:48:36 +0000

Thanks for the news! I just hope the performance will be significantly better compared to CR2.

Radim